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not too loudly. in case you haven't found him yet, we'll put a yellow circle around him. amazed that you couldn't find him? this is the u.s. army's new camouflage for afghanistan. changing out all of the uniforms is expected to cost more than $200 million. here's hoping it will be a lifesaver. thanks for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. stay tuned for "reliable sources." washington is accustomed to big rallies, but how many talk show hosts could draw a crowd to the lincoln memorial and stir up a huge fuss in the process. glenn beck with help from sarah palin spoke yesterday in the same spot on the anniversary of martin luther king's "i have a gramm dream" speech. was it a partisan event? many americans persist in believing a lie that president obama is a muslim. some say they learned it from
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the media. why haven't journalists been able to put this rumor to rest? and a conservative columnist makes a case against same-sex marriage and is hammered by other commentators. a conversation with ross dalthit of the new york times. and tiger woods ex-wife breaks her silence. did she have too much control over the internet? this is "reliable sources." after weeks of promotion or self-promotion to be precise, glenn beck hit the mall yesterday. tens of thousands of people, or more, showed up on the anniversary of the famous martin luther king speech. less than predicted but an impressive turn out for a talk show guy. here he is trumpeting the lincoln memorial event and those
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who followed the run-up more than fox did. >> i'm getting a lot of heat because on saturday, a week from saturday, august 28th, which is the anniversary of the martin luther king "i have a dream" speech, i am not standing in that place, but several stairs down from where those two civil rights legends stood and i'm asking people to join me and learn the history of america and learn again about the content of character. >> the first thing glenn beck does when he's called on it is say black people don't own martin luther king. you know, the tone deafness of that when people were actually owned as slaves. >> he sees himself as a martin luther king figure and a lot of people buy that nonsense. >> the fact that this clown will be on the steps of the lincoln memorial with sarah palin, i find offensive.
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there is no honor in the way these two fox employees have acted. >> cnn had substantial live coverage of the rally yesterday. msnbc less and fox ignored the event in favor of taped business programming. beck and his fox colleague sarah palin promised a nonpolitical gathering. here's some of what they said. >> something beyond imagination is happening. something that is beyond man is happening. america today begins to turn back to god. >> over these grounds where we are so honored to stand today, we feel the spirit of dr. martin luther king, jr. [ applause ] >> so has the coverage of beck's washington extravaganza been fair or rather loaded? bill press, radio talk show host and author of "toxic talk:". >> blogger for
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and jane hall from american school of history's college of education. fox said 500,000 at one point. whatever the figure. was this beck rally worth the build-up in the media? >> i think it was. i think nbc said it was 300,000. those are always controversial. it was certainly worthy of coverage. i think the tea party movement is getting more serious coverage. there is obviously enthusiasm out there. i think the symbolism of a guy who has called obama a racist standing there acting as if he hasn't done it and he's now rev ren shall toward this, the language was the most compelling thing. who is the we that needs to restore the honor? i think the coverage needs to get at who is behind this? why did they draw people? what did people say? what does this mean? it's important. >> you have been crusading against this for weeks.
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most of the talk was about god and patriotism. what did he say that was troubling? >> first of all, talking about god on the steps of the lincoln memorial. by the way, whatever the numbers were -- >> haven't preachers done that? >> 200,000. i was there. i thought i was at an old-fashioned religious camp meeting. i don't think that's appropriate on the steps of the lincoln memorial. >> why isn't it? >> because it is a sacred spot, number one. i don't think it should be a political or religious rally. it was both in my opinion. it was political, not that he ever mentioned the word obama, but you can't bash obama five days a week on the television and radio and stand up on the sabbath and be nonpolitical. >> you objected to his presence. by having sarah palin as another featured speaker didn't beck give his critics ammunition on this spot that has so much symbolism because of king's
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speech? >> let me respond to say r reverend dr. martin luther king, jr., may have felt differently about invoking god. i think it is appropriate at the memorial. but having sarah palin there, although i think everything she said was entirely appropriate and classy, it does open the door for those who want to say he invoked politics into it. >> the reverend king was a reverend. the reverend glenn beck is not a reverend. we do have separation of church and state. >> he has a right to talk about religion. >> and i think it's interesting and deserves reporting. but to call it nonpolitical and not be called on that is something journalists need to look into. >> calling it nonpolitical is dishonest. but when you wrap the political in the divine -- and he said yesterday this has nothing to do with politics and has all to do with god. he put himself in the steps of
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abraham lincoln, martin luther king and moses. >> i have been critical of beck but judging from what he said yesterday, entirely positive, a great message. if he talked politics we would criticize him for that. now we're saying it was subtle. >> i have a question for you jane. >> i'm ready. >> beck criticize add piece that ran before the rally on "good morning america." we'll show you the clip now. we'll come back to that. let me ask you this. fox where you were once a commentator which seemed to get behind the 912 rallies seemed to keep its distance from the beck event. did it seem that way to you? >> it did and you can question why. i think they are taking heat for the network.
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murdock gave $1 million to the gop recently. that was a move to say we are not doing this. but when you promote it on the network and the man is drawing people because he has viewers on fox, it is aligned with fox. it's a distinction without a difference in my opinion. >> they did pull back toward end. but face it, this event would not have happened without fox news. >> fox gives beck a platform. but the other hosts were not banging the drums. >> bill o'reilly had him on to promote it. he was on fox an& friends sever times. sarah palin is on the payroll. newt gingrich is on the payroll, mike huckabee is on the payroll. >> glenn beck can turn out this many people there. >> doesn't beck benefit that he's a lightning rod, that we cover the event. doesn't that build him up more? >> controversy always sells in
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politics. the beauty about yesterday's rally is people were surprised at how positive it was. assume the only people who showed up were just white conservatives. not the case, but assuming that was true, that would be great. they were hearing a message of tolerance, of restoring american values. >> they tuned him in on monday and he's calling barack obama a racist. you can't have it both ways. >> on fox news sunday he walked back that statement as well. >> i want to play a clip we didn't have earlier. this is the "good morning, america" case that beck criticized. let's take a look. >> blacks don't own martin luther king. >> glenn beck is no martin luther king. >> here's what beck actually said. whites don't own the founding fathers, whites don't own abraham lincoln, blacks don't own martin luther king. >> you can't accuse one side and
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not include the context. >> somebody makes a statement showing two races and you show one. that was dishonest. you said for the park service to allow this was like granting al qaeda to host a rally at ground zero on 9/11. is that over the top? >> i think it was a stick in the eye -- >> you're invoking a terrorist analogy for a talk show host. why isn't that over the top? >> i'm comparing sacred places. we have very few of them. for me and americans the lincoln memorial is a sacred place. >> i'm talking about your language in bringing al qaeda into it. why is that appropriate? >> i think it is just as outrageous to have the people who offended -- who carried those attacks out at ground zero on 9/11 to give them that sacred site to give a political huckster the lincoln memorial, yes. >> i think it points to the dilemma. the left hasn't known how to
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respond. now we are getting more response -- >> the toxicity of politics in our nation where good folks like bill who are liberal believe the conservatives, their political adversaries are worse than terrorists. that's -- >> that is not true, by the way. >> denial registered. you mentioned glenn beck being on fox news this morning. he was asked about the statement. obama has a deep-seated hatred for white people and the culture. he walked it back saying it was inaccurate, poorly said, he said he had a big fat mouth and that obama believes in black liberation theology. do you think he's trying to pull back? >> we have to take him at his word. i hope he's self-examining. if he said he miscast obama, i think he did. it is also true that black liberation theology is the
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reverend wright search president obama sat in for 20 years, not within the mainstream of america. >> as one with a degree in theology there is nothing wrong with black liberation theology. one of the greatest movements. >> you have now taken us to the president and religion you have set me up. when we come back, the muslim myth. why does less than half the country believe president obama is a christian? are the media at least partly to blame?
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one of the things we learned about barack obama during the campaign is he went to church, at least after two networks got ahold of tapes of his inflammatory pastor. more than a year into the presidency many doubt his christian faith at least according to a research study.
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18% of those surveyed believe the president is a muslim. 43% don't know his religion. 34% correctly identified him as a christian. that, not surprisingly, sparked heated discussion on the air waves. >> your father is a muslim, an athiest. your mother at least is not practicing any religion. your step-father is a nonpracticing muslim. your grand parents who frequented something called the little red church -- i don't even know. is there any wonder so many americans are confused by him? they don't recognize him as a christian. no. >> it doesn't mean everyone expects you to go to church every sunday or that you are criticized if you don't. it is reaching out to the muslim world, talking about the great muslim contributions to the world, having all this muslim outreach in cairo. >> he spends a lot of time talking about extolling the virtues of islam. >> these are people uncomfortable with a black
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president or his policies. they don't like barack obama. >> do the media bear some responsibility that so many americans believe a lie or don't know what to believe? >> they do. this is a case where the conservative partisan media, our friend glenn beck says barack obama was a name he deliberately chose. i think it has to do with viewing barack obama as the other. americans at some level, many people concerned about our place in the world and thinking that every muslim is a terrorist and thinking that barack obama is somehow not legitimate. the media -- i mean, he could help by going to church visibly every week. if they wanted to get in the game he could. >> he hasn't picked a church. >> he's being defined this way. >> is there anything we heard from beck and others, suggestion that president obama is acting like a muslim? >> i took that as an analysis as
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to why people have that perception. so i think the truth is that i don't blame the media for creating this narrative. i blame them for overhyping it after the poll came out. you know, ben smith at politico noted that bush knew about 9/11 before it happened. the bottom line is americans have notions that simply aren't factual. >> it's not like media commentators are saying, hey, he's not a christian. it is more subtle. >> it is. i think the media played a big role on this. this pole came two weeks after the obsession with the so-called mosque at ground zero. >> which continues. they go out and ask that question. i question why they would even ask the question of americans. you could ask if he were cheating on his wife and you would get 15%, 20%. >> it's a manufactured media story. >> how can a public opinion poll
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in which more than half of those spomding say they either don't believe that the president is a christian or don't know. how can that be a media manufactured story. >> it's a story the right has been driving on talk radio. i believe limbaugh has been talking about him as an imam. >> a lot of people don't know john mccain's religion. >> it's like push polling. do you beat your wife? did you know he's not a christian? i think the media has responsibility. >> you have to keep in mind people don't always believe what the media say. we saw it during the health care debate on the death panels. many news people said there are no death panels. 40% to 45% think it does involve death panels. >> the language is working on americans, many of them out of work, concerned about our place in the world, concerned about terrorism thinking if you are muslim and if you are black you
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somehow are not for this country. it's a deep-seated thing i find frightening. >> there is zero evidence to make a poll like this necessary. he's never been seen anywhere other than in a christian church. we slammed him for six months for going to reverend wright's christian church. he has a group of christian advisers. there is no basis other than if you plant the question you raise the doubt. >> i do think as jane said if he had gone to churches and overtly tried to get this message out. >> that suggests it's his fault. >> bill clinton did that. everybody knows he's a southern baptist. if you work in politics, your message is partly your responsibility. let me also say that barack obama is also different from most previous presidents we have had. >> i noticed that. >> he's intellectual -- i'm talking about his style. >> his father was kenyan. >> he's aloof, intellectual. >> what does that have to do
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with it? >> people don't know him. >> reagan didn't go to church on sunday but he wasn't black so nobody accused him of being a muslim. >> if jesse jackson, nobody would wonder. >> he's a reverend. one thing about the president is this started with a blogger. toby harden wrote an article. sheer speculation about whether the president will run again. let's take a look. >> because i am more convinced than ever that president obama won't be running, his party won't take him out, polls won't take him out. i think barack obama will take himself out. i don't think the guy wants it. >> why do media people make silly predictions? >> that may be wishful thinking picking up on a thoughtful column. i think americans got tired of bill clinton, but we want emo emoting. we want barack obama to show
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something. he did you want show emotion except around his family. >> but this is about whether he want it is job. >> what is he supposed to do to prove he wants it. >> why do media people bring it up? it gets attention. >> oh! why didn't i think of that? >> the story about hillary clinton will run against president obama, that will give you attention. >> or become his running mate. >> that's more likely. running against him is absurd. >> i want to point out it is august. in the month of august in washington you can say anything and people will talk about it. >> we have a minute left. we had more primaries this week. john mccain won big. he was reported to be in trouble by the press. m there is a narrative that mccain won ugly. here's a piece. the question is whether mccain's sharp shift to the right will come back to haunt him and
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tarnish his legacy. is the press angry with john mccain? >> i was out trying to interview john mccain and he wouldn't talk to anybody because two weeks ago she got him to deny he ever changed anything. john mccain did adjust some positions. he was wise to seize on the fact that -- >> challenge from the right. >> exactly. the real reason john mccain won is that j.d. hayworth was no conservative hero. >> i'm talking about the media saying, well, he won, but he betrayed what he thought we stood for. >> i think you're right. the media soured on john mccain. he ran some very negative ads against hayworth. he attacked hayworth on the air while hayworth was still a talk show host, hadn't even filed yet. >> he moved on immigration and conservative friends of mine say the media loved him when he wasn't going to win as a republican. now they don't love him anymore. >> that's a good note to end on.
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thank you very much for joining us this morning. coming up in the second half of "reliable sources" former republican chairman ken melman outs himself to "the atlantic." is admitting being gay a big deal? we'll tackle that and more. and tiger woods' ex-wife grants an exclusive interview to "people" magazine. was elin treated with kid gloves? and jon stewart over the mosque mess. there's no way to hide it. sir, have you been drinking tonight? if you ride drunk, you will get caught... and you will get arrested. where banks competed to save me a boatload of money on my mortgage, that would be awesome. sure, like that'll happen. don't just think about it -- spend 10 minutes at lendingtree and save up to $258 a month. with their autobahn for all event. it ends soon. they got great prices. cars built for the autobahn.
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he was the chairman of the republican party and the head of president bush's re-election campaign. this week in an interview with the atlantic the former official
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came out of the closet. >> ken melman today is the nation's most prominent openly gay republican. >> while working for bush melman towed the party line when in fact a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage. >> the president strongly believes that marriage in this country ought to be between a man and a woman. >> now melman says he supports gay marriage which is the source of a legal bat until california where a federal judge overturned the ban on proposition 8. it is argued if american society accepts marriages between two men or two women, quote, we are giving up on one of the great ideas of western civilization, the celebration of lifelong heterosexual monogamy as a unique and indispensable estate. he joins me now. what do you make of the coverage of ken melman coming out to the atlantic? why is it such a big story except on fox news which hasn't
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mentioned it. >> has it been a big story? >> it was covered by your newspaper and jake's. >> part of the story of the coming out is the fact that among republicans and particularly among republican elites it hasn't been pursued as a big deal. there was expectation that it would lead to a backlash among conservative leaders. part of it is that he's not an elected official, out of politics. but you're seeing that while the country is evenly divided roughly over gay marriage, maybe tipping slightly in favor, maybe not. among american elites -- and this is true of republicans and democrats, there is a sense that either there is support for gay marriage or a sense that it isn't something anybody wants to talk about. with the bush white house, i think this was probably true back in 2004 as well. this was an issue pressed on them by socially conservative activists.
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>> in fairness one the campaign was happy to seize upon. mark amburger told me when melman was working with the bush campaign he looked into melman's sexuality and would have outed him with the evidence. is that something a journalist ought to co? >> that's interesting. i'm surprised mark would say that. i suppose it depends on what kind of evidence you have. >> say you have slam dunk evidence. >> i think there is a distinction in that kind of case between what you're revealing about the person. if the person is somebody who is gay but -- you know, i think it's possible to be gay and be against same-sex marriage n. that situation, i think outing is sort of -- you know, there is a dubious claim there. that your sexual orientation has to determine your views. not only politically but your views on this. >> the argument is you are not
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being honest. you are working for someone not advancing gay rights and being honest about who you are. on the other hand, there is the privacy question which is why i'm uncomfortable with outing. you wrote about gay marriage before this in the new york times and maybe because of the real estate you have it seemed to strike a nerve. andrew sullivan, probably the nation's most prominent gay blogger and conservative, said you are ignoring the reality of gay lives, the integration of gays into main stream culture and they won't be pushed back into the closet. what was your reaction? >> andrew's right. the integration of gay couplelecouples is basically complete. we aren't having an argument about whether gays will be in the closet or not. it's just happening on the question of whether legally and culturally we are going to think of gay relationships as marriages. >> if you are a gay person you don't see it as narrow legal ground. >> this is why the case for gay
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marriage is powerful. america is a culture of rights. it's a culture where if you can defend something as a right, people ultimately tend to support it. if you look at what's going on in the debate over gay marriage it's ultimately about recognition. it's a debate where gay couples are saying marriage is a kind of recognition of civil equality. if we are excluded from this institution, we don't have true equality. >> there are obviously legal rights that go with marriage. >> i think at this point, if you look at the polling numbers, most americans support offering some of the -- you know, the privileges that go along. >> it seemed you tried to make an intellectual argument about an emotional issue. >> the argument i was trying to make was basically that there is more going on in marriage than just the question of rights. the institution of marriage exists and has evolved for a particular cultural purpose and that purpose is distinctive ti
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linked to heterosexual ti and prostate cancer radiation. what happened in the united states in the past 30, 40 years is the linkage weakened in heterosexual life long before the issue of gay marriage appeared. it used to be that sex, marriage and prostate canccreation went . you see it in divorce rates and the fact that 40% of american children are born outside of wedlock. so if you make this explicit and say, as judge walker did in the california decision, he says we have reached a point where marriage has nothing to do with gender difference or procreation. the question is if you make that explicit does it have cultural consequence? >> clethat doesn't fit into a 15-second sound bite. you talked about the mosque center near ground zero showing there are two americas. the first america, you wrote, sees the project as high ideals
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and the second america sees disrespect for our values and these people have dark suspicions about islam. are you defending the second group? >> i'm saying the second group, that they are in a sense the push on immigrant populations, religious minorities and so on, to assimilate to american life is one side of a coin. on the other side is bigotry, xenophobia and so on. these often co-exist and work together. the analogy was between muslim integration in the united states today and catholic integration in the 19th century. a lot of people looking at catholic integration in the 19th century were bigots. those nativists made an ideological critique of 19th seneca thol simple saying it isn't compatible with democracy because so many leaders were
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critics of liberalism and democracy. in the mosque controversy people are making an ideological case about what muslim leaders need to do, renounce. >> this may be whipped up by the media to some extent which is what i believe and they haven't raised much money, but you think it taps into a deeper debate about american society. >> think about your first panel today. you were arguing about glenn beck at the lincoln memorial. you had bill press, a liberal, saying this is a sacred space, a violation of my understanding, bill press's understanding of america to have glenn beck here. that's what you are getting from conservatives. you're getting people saying it is a sacred space -- it's legal but insensitive. >> when the new york times hired you, did that put more pressure on you because of the influence of the newspaper to watch every word, bring yourself in more? >> i hope it did.
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not rein myself in, but the new york times is a unique platform in american life with a unique audience. you want to hold yourself to the highest standard possible. >> we appreciate your bringing your standards to our program. thank you very much for coming in this morning. up next, elin nordegren grants only one interview to "people" magazine, but what about the ground rules imposed by the magazine? when you approach things from a different perspective, you don't end up with just another car. you end up with the all-new saab 9-5 luxury sport sedan.
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there was the car crash, the stories about the parade of mistresses, the rehab, eventual and not successful return to golf. through it all, tiger woods' wife remained silent. even when the golfer admitted all the affairs. >> i was unfaithful.
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i had affairs. i cheated. what i did is not unacceptable. and i am the only person to blame. >> now elin nordegren has broken her silence with "people" magazine. in a cover story just released as the divorce was becoming final her conversations said she had been through hell, had no idea and was embarrassed. >> she said one of the hardest things about listening to the chatter and reading headlines was there was an impression that she was a violent woman, that she took after him, chasing him out of the house. she said it wasn't that way at all. that he left. >> i'm curious. was she responsive at all to the alleged mistresses who have been vocal about the relationships with tiger. >> we didn't get into it. we wanted to talk about her
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feelings, what she's been through and rise above as she has handled herself, rising above the muck of the scandal. >> how did "people" which is owned by cnn's parent time-warner get the story? joining us now, former cnn contributor lola oginacki. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> elin would talk through questions but then write out her answers. that's what was quoted. does that bother you? >> not at all. i think people would bend over backwards to get the interview. people have been wanting to here what elin had to say. i can't imagine why "people" would not follow her ground rules. anything she said was a go for them. >> it gives her greater control. the explanation was she's swedish and didn't feel comfortable with her english but there is no video and it means
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it is difficult to follow up and her p.r. team could have helped to craft some answers. >> her p.r. team could have helped craft some of the answers. i'm not going to put that off the table. what i do think is clear is that elin was forthright and forthcoming in the interview. the only thing she stayed away from was the mistresses and how much she got in settlement. she talked about losing weight, losing her hair and how she felt betrayed by tiger woods and the people around him. >> there were carefully worded sentences like i feel stronger, i have confidence in my beliefs, my decision and myself. here's a question she was asked. we know you don't want to discuss the things that led up to your divorce. can you talk about how you first learned of his betrayal and what you felt? answer, absolute shock and disbelief. she didn't answer how she found out. it seemed "people" was skittish about what was described as the
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muck which is what everyone wants to hear about. >> exactly. people do want the muck. i think the one glaring hole was she didn't speak about the mistresses. again, i'm sure elin's p.r. people were in control here and people was willing to do anything to land the interview, including avoiding topics she refused to discuss. >> so, look, i'm sympathetic to her. anybody would be. she probably has been through hell. she didn't want to be a celebrity. when you look at the photo shoot, the family photos, written answers, questions like, tell us about your childhood growing up in sweden, it seems she was treated like a carefully packaged celebrity. >> she was treated with kid gloves and she was in control. she got to talk about what she wanted to. the photos were beautiful. it seems she had approval and she was very clear that she was not going certain places and she did not go there. i thought it was interesting that she did give people access. they spoke with her over the
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course of four days and spent approximately 19 hours with her. that is a lot of time. but, again, it was clear that it was a very controlled interview. >> it is a lot of time, but if you can only quote written submissions, that's an interesting way to do it and a big exclusive for "people" magazine. switching topics here to levi johnston who seems to be in the news every week, he was on cbs's early show. the reason i mention "people" is he said not long ago, i said things about the palins that weren't completely true. i apologize publically. here's what was said on cbs. >> do you have any regrets? >> i don't really regret anything. the only thing i wish i hadn't done is put out the apology because it makes me sound like a liar. i have never lied about anything. >> this is the sixth time the early show put him on. he now says he wasn't lying,
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before he said he was. how does he have credibility? >> i don't think he has any credibility at all. he obviously flip-flopped on the statement. no one knows exactly what he's in this for except one thing is clear. he has a taste of fame and he wants his 15 minutes to last a good half an hour. >> and cbs is providing that. >> they are giving him the perfect platform. he gets up there, spews and says what he feels like and turns around a few weeks later to say the opposite thing. >> before he was getting married to bristol palin. now that's off. i used to say, leave the kids alone, they didn't ask for the spotlight. they seem to want it now. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. when we come back, the sound of sunday. politicians talk about the economy and glenn beck interviewed on fox news.
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it's not only about the glenn beck rally this morning. the lousy economy getting lots of coverage on the sunday morning programs. ed henry is here to talk about it. >> that's right. we wanted to talk about the economy. some of the other shows, nbc was looking at hurricane katrina. brian williams covering that. abc looked at education policy, a back-to-school type of a show. we were trying to focus on the economy because there was such bad news on housing this week. housing sparked the financial
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crisis. now new home sales, existing home sales, way down. we had the president's housing secretary exclusively suggesting they are maybe open to the idea of reviving the $8,000 tax credit for first time home buyers. something candidates in the florida senate race jumped all over. >> i think it's too early to say after a month of numbers whether the tax credit will be revived or not. we are watching carefully. we talked about new tools we'll be launching in the coming weeks and we are going to be focused, like a laser, on where the housing market is market is mov forward. >> i think it would help enormously. i think any time you can reduce taxation to spur the economy forward is a great thing to do. i would en courage the president to do that because it would help my fellow floridians. >> as a member of the ways and means committee, it was essential to helping individuals buy a home again. that tax credit means an awful lot. here in florida we need more of
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it. >> now, interesting, the president is giving this big speech on tuesday night. only the second time he is using the oval office as a backdrop. he'll talk about u.s. combat troops coming home from iraq. the deadline is august 31st. even as such an important issue is still getting the spotlight, it's still all about the economy with two months to go. glenn beck was on fox news sunday. >> he can't go anywhere else. contractually he has to appear on fox. >> i thought chris wallace asked him some hard questions. what was most news worty was when he was asked about his infamous statement of a year ago that president obama has a deep-seated hatred of white people and the while culture. he walked it back to the greatest extent i've ever seen. >> first of all, it shouldn't have been said, it was poorly said. i have a big, fat mouth sometimes and i say things. that's just not the way people should behave. and it was not accurate. it is liberation theology -- >> let me ask -- >> that shaped his world view.
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>> glenn beck is an unabashed conservative but i think that whole obama is a racist comment has become something he's trying to get beyond. >> it runs counter to everything he claimed he wanted to do yesterday as the lincoln memorial. he billed it as this transer for afternoon moment. he's pretty divisive. he'll go after the president, sometimes fairly, sometimes unfairly. sometimes with the facts, sometimes without the facts. also interesting that chris wallace pressed him on whether he'd run for office with sarah palin and he insisted he is not smart enough to be president and won't run. he also said he has a big, fat mouth. i think bottom line, even his critics will finally agree with something glenn beck said. he's got a big, fat mouth. >> no beck-palin ticket in 2012. ed henry, thanks. still to in on this program, david gregory gets tough. brian williams squirms a bit. and fox news airs some scary talk about an arab who's no stranger to rupert murdoch's
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time now for the "media monitor" a look at the hits and errors in the news business. here's what i like. one of the toughest things in live television is to pin down a politician who refuses to answer the question. on "meet the press" last weekend, david gregory asked mitch mcconnell a fundamental question. if the gop is concerned about the budget deficit, what about the cost of extending the bush tax cuts for the wealth
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america americans. mcconnell stuck to his talking points. here's how it went. >> what are you prepared to do to pay for an extension of tax cuts for everybody? >> this has been tax law in america for almost ten years now, existing tax law. >> but my question is how do you pay for an extension of tax cuts. if you're concerned as republicans say they are about cutting spending and the deficit, you have to acknowledge that tax cuts are not paid for. >> well, what are you talking about, paid for. this is existing tax policy. >> the cbo, senator, this week made it very clear that the long-term picture for the economy, for the deficit is very dark if you extend the bush era tax cuts without somehow paying for them. >> look, what we're talking about here is tax increases in the middle of a recession. >> but, senator, with respect you are being unresponsive to a question, which is are tax cuts paid for going forward or is it
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borrowed money at a time when you and other republican leaders say we must get serious about the deficit. it's a straightforward question. >> yeah, i know, and i gave you a straightforward answer. >> now, whether you agree with him or not, mcconnell never did explain why it's okay to add to the deficit by extending tax cuts, which by law would otherwise expire, but not okay to add to the deficit with spending programs. and gregory didn't just let him off the hook and go on to the next topic. a tip of the hat to brian williams for keeping his cool when caught in a late-night cross anchor. the nbc anchor was on david letterman's cbs show when dave tried to bait him to take sides against that other guy who does comedy on nbc. >> you probably go to the jay leno show. >> i do. we have a robust slate of evening programming. >> but i don't like it when you go on that show. could you not go on that show? >> and now you're sounding like him.
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>> why do you have to go on that show? >> sometimes an anchor just has to stay on the high road. here's what i don't like. whatever your position on the so-called mosque in manhattan, there are efforts to tie the backers to other scary-sounding arabs. here's former bush administration official dan seen yo talking about imman -- imam rauf. >> which is extremely common with a number of these leaders from the muslim world who are supported by organizations like the kingdom foundation, which has been a furnished of the imam rauf in the past. this is a saudi organization headed up by the guy who tried give rudolph giuliani $10 million after 9/11 which was sent back. >> among those who were -- intrepid analyst jon stewart. >> themo


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